Hacking / Opsec

Qubes VS Graphene?

Started by yannycole · Jun 27, 2026

#1738
Everyone says Qubes is the most secure but we all know Graphene is entirely immune to Cellebrite? Is the trade-off of computer vs phone (yikes) worth it then? Or is it possible to somehow get Graphene
#1739
↳ Replying to @yannycole
Your o/s and apps are not more secure than the hardware they run at. Therefore you should consider Graphene way less secure than Qubes. Qubes is most likely currently best available o/s you can use.
#1741
↳ Replying to @DaVenom
yea im sure qubes is mostly more secure but the issue is the feds can undelete stuff via cellebrite but i assume theres a workaround
#1742
↳ Replying to @yannycole
if the feds can plug cellebrite into your devices you have a way bigger problem
#1743
↳ Replying to @yannycole
"we all know Graphene is entirely immune to Cellebrite"

Where on earth did you hear that????

That's a stretch. Wow.

PS. Take this is gospel and the word of God: No [insert device here] exists that is ever immune to [insert attack here]. Everything evolves as CVEs are racked up and vulnerabilities are discovered.
#1744
↳ Replying to @AngieJ
Some leaked data from Cellebrite (a couple slides dating from 2025) said they were not able to get access on Graphene device both BFU and AFU. Also let's not forget that the FBI was unable to get into an iphone in lockdown state this year...
#1745
↳ Replying to @AngieJ
yes referring to what dangling said its the best known so far (that im aware of gonna research more now)