Why do you trust TOR?

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Ever get that message that there's something wrong with your exit?

That's why ....

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yeah, very good, its the same with the monero network, they analyze the transactions around and timings attack, in the same vastamo hack that i mention earlier, they also analyze and do correlantiong timing with the exchanges between wallets, a response from the tor project of the boystown thing:

"The Tor Project quickly responded to these reports, reassuring users that the attack did not indicate a flaw in the Tor network itself but rather an operational security mistake on the part of the suspect. The outdated software he used lacked features such as Vanguards-lite, a protection mechanism introduced in later versions of Tor, designed specifically to mitigate timing and guard discovery attacks."

I recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch\?v\=Mzz6-mfevfs

and also this one: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ8qnzPPYx0.

Both talk about the boystown case, but in short, they used an outdated version of the ricochet app. This tools work well, but you should be paranoid about everything updated, use as much layers possible, be aware of the timming attacks and do a serious research when dealing with sensitive things

Thank you for educating me sir

i dont have the truth, but its very satisfying discuss with ppl with different opinions and with respect go to a conclusion, have a good day.

Not being a big enough target to bother with is a good enough reason to trust Tor. Here's the thing: You will never be safe. You will never even be mostly safe. All OpSec is a gamble. You make an estimate of how likely it is that you'll go to prison against how much you stand to gain, and if it's a good bet then you take it. If you get unlucky enough that the feds bring their whole weight down on you then you're fucked no matter how clever you are, but they can only do that to a couple people at a time because they have limited time and money to spend on doing it. If the chance of that happening is small enough, and the benefits large enough, then it's worth the risk. It seems scary, but really it's just the same calculation you make when you decide it's worth it to drive to work even though sometimes people die in car crashes.

The people who are big enough targets don't trust Tor and add extra layers to reduce the risk further (or they go to jail).

Trusting people is an unavoidable part of life, get used to it. You cannot cut yourself off from humanity.

I think you have a valid point. Started reading Jolly Rogers Security Guide for beginners and it talks a little about the issue you brought up. Quoting:

"[...]The problem comes obviously when you are entering plain text into TOR because anybody

can set up an exit node. The FBI can set up an exit node, the NSA, or any other foreign

government,[...]"

"So what can we do to fix this? Well, luckily we are now having more and more servers that

are offering something called Hidden services. You can easily recognize these services by the

address .onion. These services offer what's called end-to-end encryption. [...] The web server

of the hidden service now becomes your exit node, which means the website you are visiting is

the one decrypting your message, not some random exit node ran by a potential attacker.

Remember, the exit node has the key to decrypt your request. The exit node can see what you

are sending in clear text once they decrypt it. "

So as I understand, at least in .onion sites you are not choosing to trust TOR but the site itself that now acts as the exit node. Therefore, I think all we can do is be cautious to not reveal information ourselves, and try to use trustworthy links. Don't really trust anything really.

I have used Tor and i2pd for a very long time and let me tell you what i concluded.

The problem with Tor is that most users DO NOT contribute to the network, they just use it, so you end up with very few node runners compared to the users.

Tor has ~10k nodes (including bridges) and ~2 millions users.

I2P on the other side has users contributing to the network by default and relaying traffic, there are 50k - 100k routers.

Every i2p user contributes to the network, and users who want to contribute more, they run floodfill routers.

So i2p relies more on the people, tor relies more on god knows who.

It's not surprising to assume that nearly all tor nodes are controlled by bigTech/govs/jews.

Running 10k high speed Tor nodes is nothing for a single government or big tech corp, let alone several jewish owned govs and big corps banding together to control the entire network.

When people rely on anonymous entities like in Tor instead of taking responsibility and relaying traffic like in i2p, this is what happens.

Also tor is shit for torrenting. i2p on the other hand can works for everything except accessing the clearnet.

Also the central dirs problem that tor has, i2p relies on DHTs to spread hidden services starting paths.

Some people say "people do shit using Tor and no one got caught, this means it's safe"

No retard, maybe the node owners do not want to arrest people who pose no threat to them, they go after real threats like people who sell guns, ISIS members or anyone who wanna take down their jewish system.

The govs official and people in control are mostly pedos and they have no real problem with cp.

So i think Tor is shit and do not use it for anything serious.

also haven't you asked yourself why all tor markets ban weapons, cp etc, what's the point of a dark net if it does not allow selling anything and everything.

It should just be what the people demands and what the market decides.

But instead only few things are allowed, drugs and other silly stuff.

I think tor and the markets are already controlled and only things that pose no threat to the world gov is allowed

Drugs are good cuz they keep people drugged and away from reality.

But having weapons to overthrow govs and take control, that's a no no.

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