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Started by ab_llc · Jan 29, 2026
Wow dude.
Just wow.
You didn't read anything in my linked post, did you?
Are you a chatbot?
Just wow.
You didn't read anything in my linked post, did you?
Are you a chatbot?
I did. You are just doing ass-licking to Chainalysis all around your post.
Just look at your conclusion: "It's Chainalysis and Chainalysis only at the moment that provides anything reliable about the identity of wallet addresses."
That's what I disagree with.
From my perspective, Chainalysis is OVER, eaten by competitors such as TRMLabs.
Just look at your conclusion: "It's Chainalysis and Chainalysis only at the moment that provides anything reliable about the identity of wallet addresses."
That's what I disagree with.
From my perspective, Chainalysis is OVER, eaten by competitors such as TRMLabs.
I have used TRM, CipherTrace, Elliptic, and Chainalysis as an actual user with a paid seat. I've run wallet addresses through them all for half a decade. I know who's the best.
When was the last time you logged into any of those tools with your paid seat and used them?
When was the last time you logged into any of those tools with your paid seat and used them?
I remember we ran a test in 2023.
On purpose. Where we knew the outcome because we had processed the transactions ourselves. Well I didn't personally, but I was in the room when it was being demonstrated. There were people from state/federal law enforcement, reps from banks, other crypto companies, etc.
We had four BTC wallet addresses we knew from start to finish who used, them, what wallets they went through, where the mixers were, what exchanges were used, and where the funds ultimately landed.
The goal of the test was to prove out each of the major blockchain analytics tools and their effectiveness. Individually (this was in a team setting) we put each of the four addresses into the Top 4 major blockchain analytic tools. The results?
Elliptic and CipherTrace gave a result of "no attribution" meaning no data on any transactions and couldn't identify any of the counter-parties or track anything. For any of the hops or wallets or anything. Just zero results.
TRM Labs, the tool which the poster above loves so much, attributed the funds flow through various "non-attributed wallets" but finally said the funds landed at a "Green Light" exchange like Coinbase/Crypto/Gemini.com. I can't remember which one, but one that we could easily then look into to see how funds were routed.
WORSE THAN NO ATTRIBUTION OR NO ANSWER -- THIS WAS 100% COMPLETELY WRONG!!!
Last up to bat? Chainalysis.
They lit the fuck up like a goddammed Christmas TreeChainalysis lit up like a fucking Christmas tree we died laughing. It nailed the identity of almost every wallet, the name of the mixer that was used, the outputs from that, some funds (30% if I recall) broke-off to unidentified chain swaps, but the majority of funds (70%) then landed at a wallet that was banned by OFAC. (Think: Russia, ISIS, Terrorism, Bad Shit).
In the beginning, we had purposefully used wallets that we knew funds went to OFAC listed wallet addresses. Because those are the wallets shared worldwide that are "never touch these" and it's bad, bad, bad.
Guess who passed the test?
It wasn't even close. Even without the end result, the fact the other three couldn't even tell you anything about the hops and the mixers and the other transfers was just incredibly mind blowing.
Shortly thereafter, MasterCard (who had bought CipherTrace the year before) announced it was literally closing down the CipherTrace division, laying everyone off, and retiring the software so it wasn't available for use to anyone anymore. That's how bad these other tools are.
There is one blockchain tracking tool on the planet right now that works.
Put another way, if you walked into court with evidence of wallet tracking from Elliptic or TRM, you could get the case thrown out. At this point law enforcement and the courts only trust Chainalysis. That's it.
/u/ab_llc
https://www.google.com/search?q=ciphertrace+shutting+down
So in court, when they were put side by side, the one the Defendant used (CipherTrace) was laughed out of the room, and the other that the Prosecution used (Chainalysis) was reaffirmed to actually be legit.
I have other example from Ellipic and TRM. But you can go fetch them from Google on your own because I am really tired right now from having written all of this to rebut a fucking baby bottle onion tool who built a magic box that knows more than me and the real tools out there.
Ay dios mio.
On purpose. Where we knew the outcome because we had processed the transactions ourselves. Well I didn't personally, but I was in the room when it was being demonstrated. There were people from state/federal law enforcement, reps from banks, other crypto companies, etc.
We had four BTC wallet addresses we knew from start to finish who used, them, what wallets they went through, where the mixers were, what exchanges were used, and where the funds ultimately landed.
The goal of the test was to prove out each of the major blockchain analytics tools and their effectiveness. Individually (this was in a team setting) we put each of the four addresses into the Top 4 major blockchain analytic tools. The results?
Elliptic and CipherTrace gave a result of "no attribution" meaning no data on any transactions and couldn't identify any of the counter-parties or track anything. For any of the hops or wallets or anything. Just zero results.
TRM Labs, the tool which the poster above loves so much, attributed the funds flow through various "non-attributed wallets" but finally said the funds landed at a "Green Light" exchange like Coinbase/Crypto/Gemini.com. I can't remember which one, but one that we could easily then look into to see how funds were routed.
WORSE THAN NO ATTRIBUTION OR NO ANSWER -- THIS WAS 100% COMPLETELY WRONG!!!
Last up to bat? Chainalysis.
They lit the fuck up like a goddammed Christmas TreeChainalysis lit up like a fucking Christmas tree we died laughing. It nailed the identity of almost every wallet, the name of the mixer that was used, the outputs from that, some funds (30% if I recall) broke-off to unidentified chain swaps, but the majority of funds (70%) then landed at a wallet that was banned by OFAC. (Think: Russia, ISIS, Terrorism, Bad Shit).
In the beginning, we had purposefully used wallets that we knew funds went to OFAC listed wallet addresses. Because those are the wallets shared worldwide that are "never touch these" and it's bad, bad, bad.
Guess who passed the test?
It wasn't even close. Even without the end result, the fact the other three couldn't even tell you anything about the hops and the mixers and the other transfers was just incredibly mind blowing.
Shortly thereafter, MasterCard (who had bought CipherTrace the year before) announced it was literally closing down the CipherTrace division, laying everyone off, and retiring the software so it wasn't available for use to anyone anymore. That's how bad these other tools are.
There is one blockchain tracking tool on the planet right now that works.
Put another way, if you walked into court with evidence of wallet tracking from Elliptic or TRM, you could get the case thrown out. At this point law enforcement and the courts only trust Chainalysis. That's it.
/u/ab_llc
https://www.google.com/search?q=ciphertrace+shutting+down
"The trial of Bitcoin Fog founder Roman Sterlingov was the catalyst of a chain of events that would lead to CipherTrace’s crisis.
The prosecution built its case using forensic information from CipherTrace competitor Chainalysis. The justice system used similar blockchain analysis information to convict Sam Bankman Fried in the FTX case.
Sterlingov’s defense called into question the validity of the information and commissioned a report from CipherTrace director of intelligence and investigations Jonelle Still.
In addressing concerns about the verifiability and completeness of blockchain analytics data, it’s pivotal to highlight the judicial outcomes that reinforce the credibility of such tools. The Daubert hearing related to the Bitcoin Fog case saw the court decisively affirm the admissibility of Chainalysis blockchain analytics as evidence. This judicial endorsement was further exemplified by the prosecution’s success in securing a guilty verdict on all counts. Such outcomes demonstrate the robustness and reliability of blockchain analytics in legal contexts, underscoring its critical role in the prosecution of digital currency-related crimes.
Adding fuel to the fire was MasterCard’s decision to pull Still’s report, deeming CipherTrace’s data unauditable and unverifiable. The problems to which attorneys referred were rooted in the data collection practices the company had used before joining MasterCard."
So in court, when they were put side by side, the one the Defendant used (CipherTrace) was laughed out of the room, and the other that the Prosecution used (Chainalysis) was reaffirmed to actually be legit.
I have other example from Ellipic and TRM. But you can go fetch them from Google on your own because I am really tired right now from having written all of this to rebut a fucking baby bottle onion tool who built a magic box that knows more than me and the real tools out there.
Ay dios mio.
Are you paid by Chainalysis to promote it like you do?
Wow... they are so desperate ...
Anyway, taking one example of success does not demonstrate their ability to be right more than 50% of the time.
It is not an exact science.
We tried to launch a free AML-Check tool for those who cannot afford a paid solution. It is still better than nothing, and probably much better than using a Telegram Bot.
Wow... they are so desperate ...
Anyway, taking one example of success does not demonstrate their ability to be right more than 50% of the time.
It is not an exact science.
We tried to launch a free AML-Check tool for those who cannot afford a paid solution. It is still better than nothing, and probably much better than using a Telegram Bot.
Do they pay me? It's the other way around. We pay them a lot for access. Mucho dinero!
Because they're the only tool on the market at this point that has been proven in court to be effective. That actually produces real results that people trust.
Again, nobody else comes close.
Because they're the only tool on the market at this point that has been proven in court to be effective. That actually produces real results that people trust.
Again, nobody else comes close.
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