DNStars - Onion Harm Reduction Forum

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DNStars is the revival of the DarkNetStars (DNStars) discourse forum running back in 2018. used to be a forum designed for users to register with their email username and password to engage in discussion about harm reduction , lab tests and lab results.

The site is oriented around drug use and promotes the freedom of drugs and the practice of harm reduction with an onion mirror currently.

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http://dnstars3ubobdor7siico4byz5id6ww4lat7j533mnooffmev3ba2qyd.onion

New Features

• ED & RSA PGP Only registration (read on the forum our post about the benefits of using PGP only register / login)
• Username / password registration also available
• Works with Tor : Safest Mode (javascript not required ☒)
• Spam is not allowed and ANY spam or malicious users will be removed
• BBCode Formatting
• Growing Lab test Database on the website

Rules & Guidelines

• We don't allow sales to take place on site and we comply with the rules of this sub-tforum.
• Sourcing not allowed, there are many categories of discussion.
• Basic rules are in place to protect the site's integrity.

Site is still a Work in progress)

‣ ‣ ‣ ⚠️Check it out!⚠️

Leave your constructive criticism and feedback below, much appreciated if you took your time to take a peek.

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Updated the post!

I used to love this place, was a good spot when tforum first banned dnm subtforums. Anyone know the story as to why it shut down?

Also i believe vendor discussion was allowed there. Will that be the case or purely harm reduction?

Warning : Clearnet link

⚠️ DNStars shutting down explanation ⚠️

here you can find the breakdown of why it shut down post from 2019

if you wanna avoid the link here are the main reasons

DNSTARS, the self-described “independent drug testing and publishing platform” is shutting down. The forum is most well known for hosting the results of drug identification or purity tests from Energy Control, EcstasyData, Wedinos, and other drug testing laboratories. Users of the forum often pay for an analysis of a substance from a darkweb vendor and then post the results of the test on the forum.

The users of the forum primarily discussed topics related to harm reduction including safe darkweb vendors, unsafe batches of drugs, various trends related to drug use, as well as the results of drug tests. The forum had a good relationship with Energy Control. For example, samples submitted by DNSTARS users helped Energy Control identify several substances from the substituted cathinone family.

• The site isn’t commercially viable in a nutshell.
• Donations don’t cover the bills, flip and split didn’t, locking the doors down “worked” but we were bleeding off 10% of active members a month and we’re now here today with the doors open, affiliate link hasn’t made anything for 100k impressions and to date no one bought any merch. We compromised on the IP address thing a bit and there’s the usual shenanigans starting to creep in.
• The intent is/was to have a free tier with limited likes etc then a £2.99 tier for access to encrypted PMs etc but the truth is I’ve lost the will to try implementing this just to have the same issues come around this time again in Spring.
• The member intake brought in circa £6k that was stunted by a crypto drop of about 20-25%, £2k odd was apportioned for codes, the rest into server upgrades and getting the front end up and developed with the remainder paying off liabilities owed to other people, mainly for historical codes purchased.
• Maintaining the company costs a little over £100 a month, the servers combined are around £230 a month and then community incentives and codes stack on top of that. That’s before any staff get paid, which none of us do.
• In return for a speedy site with relatively great uptime over the long view and a “safe harbour” from the arbitrary guidelines of other platforms the price for staff has been credible and severe abuse, malicious packs sent to them or the more mundane aspersions of corruption to the wilder ones that staff impersonate EC etc for no material return.
• Should anyone else want to pick the project up in spirit then I would very much welcome that, with first refusal going to staff here. For privacy reasons I can’t/won’t be handing over the back end to anything since it contains mountains of user’s personal information, but there are means to export/translate/scrape the front here.
• Having staff take over doesn’t preclude onwards travel of the database or making an error with it so that’s not on the table.
• Those considering it should know the following.
• Conventional hosts won’t tolerate the content here
• You’ll be legally liable for the content on here one way or another
• If you intend on using discourse the database here is circa 16GB+ in size now that excludes discourse image and ubuntu, circa 150gb, most VPS instances who would host you do not support the hard drive required for that + the install of the software
• You need non-cloud flare anti-DDOS which tends to be pretty expensive
• You can’t allow sourcing on the clearnet, not with class A stuff anyway
• If you allow sourcing on the dark net you’re going to get raided sooner or later
• There’s always someone somewhere pushing at the boundaries for their own interests and mitigating it is time consuming and very hard to balance
• You’re legally liable for data breaches
• The press won’t like you
• Invariably vendors won’t either
• Personally, I’ve got two young children at home, I don’t do drugs anymore, full time job and looking to do an MBA. The Mrs has an intermittent neurological condition too that has been neglected for the sakes of here. It’s simply a burden that is no longer justifiable for me. There are undoubtedly 1000 different ways I could have ran the project better, but I didn’t. I did my best for the most part and whilst it has “worked” it is not a viable as a business and we’ve already tried a non-profit vehicle, the governance collapsed.
• Perhaps there is 2000-5000-10,000 people out there who would pay £1.99-£4.99 for the “Gods work” people think of the results page, but if there are, I have failed to find them and thus failed you.
• Having reached out to administrators in similar positions/sites to this the theme seems to be a recurring one, 5-10 years later they’re sat on a net loss of £25k and the long-term payback from it was that a handful of people thought of them as cool once.
• We’ve done a lot, learned a lot, produced a lot. We showed that balancing as a platform between stakeholders can be done. It needs someone better than me to show it can be sustained.

Fucking hell, i vaguely remember that post or some series of staff posts when it was in and out of private access. Definitely seems like a tough ask.

How do you intend to do it where you could cut some costs without losing the main aspects of the market and hopefully not live in the UK either.

I am developing this as a side-side project, i revived the forum without any of the old data , check out the new cool features i'm rolling out. for the site to really work all i need is 1 user who uses it, maybe 2 since its social platform

long-term everything will play out how it should, for now i hope at least one user gives me real feedback, not from the UK :)