Hacking / Opsec

Surveillance State and OpSec

Started by ExtrapolatingReality · Jul 26, 2026

#374
Please excuse me if this is a frequently discussed topic. I was
thinking about the explosion of the use of flock cameras in the past few
months, and the implications for those involved in the dnm.

From my understanding, even with a bulletproof crypto cleaning, and
perfect opsec with regards to online presence, there are still a
significant number of vectors that LEO are able to utilize to secure the
identity of individuals. One of which is AI analysis of typing
characteristics, and matching to clear net content.

Another is determining which post office(s) a vendor is shipping parcels
to, and camping it out to wait for delivery. If flock cameras are
everywhere in society, and there is a history of movement of vehicles
via license plate, biometrics from faces and cellular id, then couldn't
LEO utilize flock data to single out persons of interest who regularly
frequent different post offices with packages for delivery? Match the
package type on camera to packages received in test purchases? Reverse
track the individual for days? Is keeping truly anonymous online or in
person even possible in the near future? I'm trying to wrap my head
around the implications of such an AI powered surveillance state, where
the government has access to absolutely everything.

People who attempt to maintain privacy would be flagged as suspicious
and would be outliers. Are dnm soon to be a thing of the past?
#375
↳ Replying to @ExtrapolatingReality
never assume safety anywhere. even tor
browser; as far as i understand it, the original lead dev was suddenly
let go (from his own project basicaly lol) in 2016 bc of BS
"allegations" from women without proof, and suddenly replaced with some
no-name people with far less interest in the project, before he could
even defend himself basically. So its reasonable to assume tor has been
at least a bit compromised for a while. also, the majority of exit nodes
are not by individuals. so its again likely the exit nodes are owned by
the feds or some affiliated tech company; who else has the money/time
for that?

notice how no marketplaces or forums basically even allow the mention of
anything that feds REALLY dont want you having. they have drugs and
instructions for carding. the drug trade is CIA regulated already to
hell and back, and carding is so inconsequential to the big picture it
doesn't matter. it's wise to assume tor isn't safe, even with a VPN or
whatever else.

DWM vendors get busted all the time. Also, its safe to assume at least a
few ARE feds. its probably not hard. if a vendor lasts a long time
without getting busted, they only do most times bc they are low profile
enough. become high profile, and DW activity is only a bit of a step up
from being clear net privacy. if feds want to watch you, they WILL do so
and it doesnt matter if it's legal or reasonable or not.
#377
↳ Replying to @mrpancake777
Dude, just give up.

Edited 1 month, 1 week ago

#378
↳ Replying to @ExtrapolatingReality
Vendors aren't dropping packs at the
same post office, day after day. They travel long distances to put packs
in blue boxes and do not reuse a spot for months. There's thousands of
boxes and it's impossible to watch them all 24/7. Check the USPS website
for the map of blue boxes - there are a LOT.

That said, USPS surveillance is still the most common method to catch
vendors. They watch for the weirdo wearing latex gloves while dropping
off mail.
#379
↳ Replying to @gordoquin
Tor hidden services do not use exit nodes, only guard nodes and relays.

"notice how no marketplaces or forums basically even allow the mention
of anything that feds REALLY dont want you having." - What is the thing
that "feds REALLY dont want you having"? Stop being cagey and just say
it.

There are a fair number of vendors who've been around for years despite
selling high-profile drugs in large quantities. I don't know how they do
it. The feds only need to find one or two mistakes to crack a case,
while criminals cannot afford to make any mistakes. However the feds
don't have an unlimited budget and have competing priorities. They
definitely prioritize fent, opioid, and meth vendors and anyone
connected to overdoses.