What is better? Ordering to a packstation or a home address?

For the whole post/discussion go to /post/dbd1cd75e5813a7efec4

oh look at the asshole vendor that blocked me lol

Most people think that the safest method is to have an order arrive at a (fake/anonymous) wall/package machine.

This is not true!

We always recommend sending the order to a normal address.

Why?

Well, first of all, shipments to packing stations often do not arrive for vague reasons, they are stolen, etc.

Secondly, and perhaps the most important reason,

Someone who goes to a packing station to pick up an order, whether under their own name or a false name, is aware of the arrival of the package. Try to deny that.. (you will fail...)

Someone who orders to his home address can always say that he has accepted a package in good faith, without checking whether he actually ordered it.

Legally they call this Plausible Deniability, do whatever you want with this information.

Love, AmphetamineLab

Another bs about plausible deniability... Perhaps was relevant in the US, in the 1990s... Plausible deniability does not currently hold in many countries in such cases, unless you take necessary steps to prove that the package was indeed sent to the wrong address by, at least, reporting the incident to the police as soon as you received the unwanted package at your apartment. It will end with interrogation and search. It may work once and you may get away with it after months or years of court hearings, but the court will certainly not believe you a second time. Meanwhile, parcel machines are almost perfect dead-drops when used responsibly, on fake identity and disposable email address. You are usually given a few days to pick up the parcel, which decreases the effectiveness of an ambush.

A lot is told here about keeping yourself anonymous, using Tor, making payments in Monero, but somehow vendors still encourage their customers here to order drugs on their real home addresses... Often because when such vendor gets caught, agrees to cooperate and handle all these customers addresses to get less sentence.

Interesting thought process...

unless you take necessary steps to prove that the package was indeed sent to the wrong address

Innocent until proven guilty.

Yes, in the movies. At least in Poland, court judgments are often subjective. Your other online activities, even liked Facebook posts that are drug-related, can contribute to the general opinion that you were "part of a criminal chain", and EOT, you have to appeal and hope for better, remaining in custody during this time, often in nightmare conditions. If you want to visit courts often, pay for lawyers good enough to convince the courts every time, then ignore all that advice about anonymity given by users on /d/OpSec, after all, you are innocent until proven guilty, right? Parcel lockers on the other side, give a different approach, where you can remain anonymous and just don't get caught.

The only logic use case for taking a risk of receiving packages by mail, on AirBnB rented with a fake ID, may be in countries where parcel lockers are rare or not yet present. This is the future of retail logistics, and in future old school mail will likely become obsolete.